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See what I mean?

I wouldn't necessarily be so deterministic about it, at least

But I guess I kind of read you as saying "keep them around" as just not actively trying to get rid of them in that. I feel like it depends a lot on the person and their situation on what does or doesn't end up as a tulpa, possibly more-so than their choice to force?

I didn't really want him, it was just a joke at first

You guys have any tips for someone making their first tulpa?

Read the guides

Alright

Is Kiahdaj's guide any good?

This conversation is more suited to #tulpa-questions

Ah, you're right

2:05 AM

Didn't think about that

Wrong channel mate

I'll take him off your hands. @elsie

Not how tulpas work

sadly

That's a darn shame.

I mean

8:22 PM

because of that we don't have "wanna trade tulpas?" which would be literally human trade

Now I'm imagining a tulpa market thinkeyes

that would probably be illegal lol

But it'd be hard to enforce that if magical mental mind transfers were possible shrugblob

I guess

Some tulpas will be police officers and they will go around thought policing

lol

so I got another tupper

no. x:

How long did it take you to force it?

I mean

8:02 AM

it's not hard when it's not your first one

How long tho

so far few hours

To force?

yes

what

what's wrong with that

11:22 AM

I did the same thing with my first one

11:22 AM

and it worked

11:22 AM

so

whats a tupper

what do you mean

11:24 AM

it's literally a tulpa

why do you call it tupper

11:24 AM

interesting emoji hahahhaha

11:24 AM

hahhahah amazing

11:24 AM

it's shortened for Tupperware

11:25 AM

hence why we have tupperware

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11:25 AM

is this a ( or is it an) hidden ad

a

thanks bratan

11:26 AM

ill serve you zigeuneraufstrich when i see you

no

okay

11:27 AM

so you got your tulpa vocal in few hours

no?

11:40 AM

forcing or making a tulpa doesn't mean you get your tup vocal

Just don't skimp out on giving them more forcing time that they need

I mean

11:42 AM

the first forcing is always long for me

Keep forcing

oh no

11:45 AM

the old days of irc are back

Is that how you dismiss advice

no

11:50 AM

I mean

11:51 AM

the "force more" thing from irc

Is that a concept unique to IRC Or just a smart thing to do with a brand new tulpa

it is a great advice

11:54 AM

but it was kinda overused

The trouble with any advice or ultimatum in tulpamancy is that we have nothing but individual biases and ideals to found our advice and methods. Maybe forcing more helps, maybe it doesn't. On the surface, sure, more work makes benefit, right? But at a deep level, in the long run, or in all cases? We have no clue what if or why forcing helps or doesn't help.

forcing on a new tulpa is a bit easier to get better results

I think "force more" is a dumb advice

11:57 AM

I doubt it helps. Does it even matter if you spend 1 hour or 2 hours each day on active forcing?

i think it does

You're kind of a contrarian when it comes to most things

11:58 AM

It does help. A tulpa will develop more the more time you spend time with them

11:58 AM

That's a basic concept

It's your intuition

11:59 AM

Not something that is obviously true

I find it funny this is all happening after I made a big comment about how we don't actually know if forcing does or doesn't help because we have no good research or study on it.

i mean

its not, whenever i force long(which rarely happens) i feel super close to my tulpa, whereas when i dont force as long its not the same

talking to a child helps it develop

And it's anegdotal, @Ayranhunter

12:01 PM

It might be caused by you feeling better for spending more time with your tulpa rather than it being significant for their development.

We don't really have anything better than anecdotes

And it doesn't mean we shouldn't question them

Might be, but I don't think so. Whenever I force long, it just feels more natural to talk to my tulpa, because I did for so long. Like its something super obvious

Of course, but I'm saying that we shouldn't dissmiss it out of hand either

You might be getting what you expect

12:02 PM

It's kinda like forming a habit, really-- getting used to talking to them

in my opinion you should force a tulpa for as much as you want until your tulpa gets vocal enough to say yes or no

in my opinion you are right

In my opinion, you shouldn't feel guilty of not spending enough time with your tulpa, just enjoy what you have and develop a bond with them.

You should still strive to spend time with them even if you're not doing heavy active forcing sessions

Why tho, I took the responsibility and thus I should care about my tulpa

I assume this is a moral statement rather than a practical or goal-based statement? (edited)

just treat them as a real person